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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Adore » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:57 pm

"spiky hair" tag or something of that sort? There are many images and characters that it could be used for (half of the characters in Kingdom Hearts, for example) Just an idea~
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by softfang » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:18 pm

"scar" tag?
"smoke" tag (covers "steam" as well as "fog" I think)?
"dragon" tag?
"crown" and/or "tiara" tag?
"scared" tag - we already have surprised, happy, and sad, why not scared?
"mirror" tag?
"pool" tag is another one I really approve of. We have plenty of poolside images.
"pout" tag?
"facial hair" tag?
"skates" tag - for both ice and regular skating?
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Thursday » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:29 pm

"smoke" / "steam" ... slightly related; I was thinking of maybe a "smoking" or "cigarette" tag. I see lots of images with girls with cigarettes (being BA), and I thought it would be well used!

See: http://e-shuushuu.net/image/92841/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/130854/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/308809/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/289358/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/125862/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/76446/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/16882/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/90272/

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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by RockRabbit » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:47 am

I think this will be rejected, mostly because I noticed in the past images with cigarettes were actually reviewed because...well, they have cigarettes in the image... xD
Just like how some countries censure scenes from Tom & Jerry that have cigarettes in them
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Thursday » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:55 pm

Oh, I didn't know it was a big deal! =O Sorry sorry then~~
(I guess people where I am need to stop smoking so much!! XD)
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Tensa » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:17 am

softfang wrote:"scar" tag?
"smoke" tag (covers "steam" as well as "fog" I think)?
"dragon" tag?
"crown" and/or "tiara" tag?
"scared" tag - we already have surprised, happy, and sad, why not scared?
Scar? Only if you want to see a body with scars... which I don't think many would want to.
Smoke? Erm... if it's "smoking" or "cigarette" I wouldn't mind.... but smoke?
Dragon? You say dragon, then we have to create "fish", then "tiger", then "<insert animal here>", etc. Thou I don't oppose nor do I approve.
Crown? Tiara? -> "headdress", nuff said
Scared? *looks at number of images the board has* There might be many images that need this tag.... but will YOU go through ... let's see... 15 images per page.... 20 000 pages to find them all?
Nasty that we didn't create as many necesary tags from the start...
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Merun » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:00 am

Crown and tiara actually falls under "royalty"
Scar, maybe for Black Rock Shooter.
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by AngelLily » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:08 am

The problem I have with the 'scar' tag, is that it might suggest a number of images referencing violence/the effects of violence. Black Rock Shooter is a good example of the tag used well, but are there so many appropriate images to use the tag as well? I see no point in a tag that would be awfully populated by a single character - kind of like the potential "detached sleeves" and how the majority of characters using it would be from Vocaloid or Touhou.

I have the same "appropriate" thought for the "smoke"/"cigarrette" tag.

I'd rather not create tags for every single facial expression out there.

For "dragon", I'd rather have a more broad definition... "Mythical Creature", maybe? Just throwing it out there.
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by RockRabbit » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:05 pm

hm... maybe create a "monster" or "beast" tag...something like that o.o
so dragons can go under it, as well as monsters or giant undefined creatures...
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Tensa » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:15 pm

Merun wrote:Crown and tiara actually falls under "royalty"
Scar, maybe for Black Rock Shooter.
We have a "royalty" tag? O_O Oh right! XD

Erm... ok... maybe I mixed up some words there, Lily.... hmmm...
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by softfang » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:07 pm

...Wow. I didn't think it was such a huge deal to add tags like this. I don't really see it as very fair if we can have a lot of facial expression/detail tags and not include others. Yeah, I know, it'd be a hassle for the tagging team, but you all want to have your images tagged appropriately and thoroughly. So why bother creating tags at all if you're going to be so guarded about it? I'm not trying to sound like I'm yelling, or biting anyone's head off. I'm just confused.

Concerning the "smoke" tag, I don't see anything wrong with it. It covers steam, fog, and just smoke. I don't even disagree with the "smoking" tag. If we can have "sake" (which sort of 'promotes' alcohol), why can't we have "smoking"?

"scar" tag would, I guess on some level, imply violence and whatever. But if you're that worried about this site being taken the wrong way--like, for instance, being seen as a site where gore, violence, and nudity is A-OK--then post it on the front page. The main rule/s. "THIS SITE IS FOR CUTE/SAFE IMAGES ONLY." I'm not trying to be bossy, but it seems like common sense to try and further avoid having to disable images. But as it stands, there are a lot of images on the site with scars in them. I would have figured it would be fine to add that. I'm not even asking for a "blood" tag.
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by RockRabbit » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:05 pm

come to think of it, i can now recall a few characters having scars o.o
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by AngelLily » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:17 pm

I am not the administrator. All of my posts are my stance, and for all we know, I'll be in the minority and the tags will be added. I dislike greatly any and every emoticon tags ("^_^", ":3") but they are there and there's nothing I can do about it. Rather than simply saying "Yes/No", I'd rather be thorough and explain why I don't support the tags. I supposed it's only fair for the users to know my reasons. Added tags work as a voting system. It is a big deal because this is how we take care of the site. If I'm being over-protective of the site or not, only the voting will tell.

I also don't see the point of adding tags that are only going to be used once or twice. It's different from adding artists. My stance on tags is that we have to be practical with our tags. It needs to cover basic concepts so it makes it easier for people to do their searches. It is not simply to point out every single element in the image. Once again, this is my stance. It is not an unbreakable stance and I'm up for discussions.

About the "smoke"/"fog" tag, aside from my "cigarrette" stance, it is sort of a "background" element, so I'm not all for it. If it were to be added, I wouldn't particularly mind it.

Common sense is wonderful, but it is not such an elementary trait. It is not so much about how the "site is going to be seen", but rather an exploitation point. Kind of like if we would add, let's say, a "loli" tag. It's obvious we don't condone porn, but it could be exploited.

Could you please provide a few examples for your suggestions? Please remember to support your suggestions with examples ^^
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by Merun » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:46 pm

There are few tags which were created before I arrived on shuu and that I would like to remove for some reason like being an obscure word or rarely used but I already tried, and you know the outcome. It's easier for us to prevent adding tag we think are useless than removing them latter.

So while there might be some tags which suggest the team might agree on variant one, the opinion might be greatly different. Might not seem fair but time change.

My main issue is with specific tag which are rarely used. Yes it makes easy to find some image since there will be handful of image tagged with it, but it needs people to tag it first. However, rarely used tag are the one we forget the most or don't even know the existence.

As for scar, I'm so/so on the issue that it involves violence. Some character outside of Black Rock Shooter does have scars for aesthetic or plot, like Squall of Kenshin, but they are male xD
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Re: Tag suggestion

Post by cosmictails » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:56 pm

I may have one tag to suggest. Can a "backpack" tag can be good of use only for military use like Nitori Kawashiro was wearing from Touhou or be used for traveling. "randosesu" tag can stay. ^.^

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