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Merun wrote:

wrexness wrote:What about autumn time pictures where trees do not have leaves? Or pine trees which never have leaves? Or images that show falling leaves, but no trees are visible? Though the correlation between the two would be strong, there are too many occasions where "leaves" would be independent from trees.

As for "falling leaves", this makes it vague as it relates to images with leaves on the ground, but no currently falling leaves are being shown.

That's why we have an "autumn" or "winter" tag which from my search, fit enough these cases. If we have no tree visible, then no need to have a "tree" tag, just "falling leaves", and I really don't think that "falling leaves" refers to leaves already on the ground. And when you see a pack of leaves, but not falling, then it's a "tree".

The point is we don't need a tag to describe a tree, be it with leaves or not. Falling leaves on the other hand can be useful since aside of autumn, there are other season when they can fall.

You missed my point a bit. I know that leaves that are already on the ground wouldn't be considered 'falling' (different tenses, obviously), but a pile of leaves on the ground isn't necessarily a tree either. Think of a pile of leaves that have been raked together like in this GIS image: http://www.metzair.com/gallery/d/1822-1/leaf_boo.jpg . (Yes, I know, there's some trees in the background, but pretend the top has been cropped off. XD )

In the case of that image, you have leaves that are neither falling nor on a tree. Such a situation would not be covered with just 'tree' and 'falling leaves' tags. Whether there are enough images on the board to warrant such a distinction is a whole different matter, but I'm just pointing the situation out.

Also, I was responding to you and Niney at once. Most of my examples were just against making this hypothetical 'leaves' tag a child of tree. Sorry about the confusion. ^^;

I don't think there is enough occurrence for this. It could be grouped under "leaves" but people will use quite a lot for tree too, so naming it "falling leaves" is better imo

I just thought of raising my old "ookami mimi" (wolf ears) tag idea again. Before the issue was that is was difficult to decipher whether a character had wolf, cat, fox or dog ears, although now I'm thinking that there are plenty of image that have wolf ears that can be notably said. For example, the entire Wolf and Spice source with Horo, the Okami source with Amaterasu, and the infamous Touhou source with Momiji Inubashiri.

And people still confuse the other "mimi" tags so...well, I dunno I just wanted to put this out there again.

Hmm...I don't think there should really be that much of an issue with a wolf ears tag...even now we have the same issue--we just with "animal ears" instead of "ookami mimi" XD
It's generally not that hard to tell the difference between a wolf and a dog (depending on how they're depicted). Wolves and kitsunes are different too: the tail of the wolf tends to be thinner than the kitsune.
Like Hakuryu said, I don't think having an "ookami mimi" tag would cause more of an issue than we already have with animal ears. <_<;;

Also, shouldn't all of these "mimi" tags be under the parent "animal ears"?

Nine_Lives wrote: Like Hakuryu said, I don't think having an "ookami mimi" tag would cause more of an issue than we already have with animal ears. <_<;;

Also, shouldn't all of these "mimi" tags be under the parent "animal ears"?

Agreed.

I have a slight suggestion. Just wondering how everyone would feel about a "headdress" tag. I do already see the trouble with it as many would probably think of the "hat" tag. I was thinking it could be used exclusively for things like bonnets and for headdresses like these for example- http://e-shuushuu.net/image/158307/ & http://e-shuushuu.net/image/157682/. I know it may seem like these are exclusive to lolita fashion, but I have seen many examples where it was not. Many confuse these images for lolita fashion images because of such an accessory. Just curious how you guys would feel about it.

Only lolita fashion? and what about maid outfit? *points to Niney*

Meh, I think hair band works for that...headdress is just getting too technical.

What maid outfit? <_< >_>
*adjusts hair band*

I would actually like a "headdress" tag for the maid outfits. Many of those are now tagged with "hair band", but I don't think what they are wearing is a hair band, it's part of the maid outfit.

I noticed Nine_Lives' comment while I was typing this one, seems we disagree on this one ^_^;

Honestly, Bib, the system right now dictates that we don't even tag "hair band" or "apron" for maid outfits because "all maid outfits have them", so...the purpose of the headdress tag becomes even more obsolete: all maid outfits have them.

I'll have to disagree with that. Not all maid outfits have them. But even if that point is still seen as void, there are many K-ON! images that could use headdress tag, as well Rozen Maiden images, most of Sakizou's images and images like these -
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/132926/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/104432/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/107661/

Gardenia wrote:I'll have to disagree with that. Not all maid outfits have them. But even if that point is still seen as void, there are many K-ON! images that could use headdress tag, as well Rozen Maiden images, most of Sakizou's images and images like these -
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/132926/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/104432/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/107661/

I agree 100%!
Also adding to that, >.> People should stop giving Rozen Maiden pictures the "lolita fashion" tag because alot of it is far from it.

Anything related to the lolita fashion tag should remain to the other topic because it's quite a special case. Also I believe that in the broadening sense of this particular tag, Rozen Maiden has all it's place. Otherwise, you can also modify this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_fas ... _and_manga

Merun wrote:Anything related to the lolita fashion tag should remain to the other topic because it's quite a special case. Also I believe that in the broadening sense of this particular tag, Rozen Maiden has all it's place. Otherwise, you can also modify this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_fas ... _and_manga

I have quite the bone to pick with that article... xD That's why I suggested another source. I won't argue about Suigintou's and Hinaichigo's outfits though since it seems to be a sensitive subject.

Gardenia wrote:I'll have to disagree with that. Not all maid outfits have them. But even if that point is still seen as void, there are many K-ON! images that could use headdress tag, as well Rozen Maiden images, most of Sakizou's images and images like these -
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/132926/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/104432/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/107661/

Alright, go for it. "headdress" will be used for these type of accessories.

anonymous_object wrote:

Gardenia wrote:I'll have to disagree with that. Not all maid outfits have them. But even if that point is still seen as void, there are many K-ON! images that could use headdress tag, as well Rozen Maiden images, most of Sakizou's images and images like these -
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/132926/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/104432/
http://e-shuushuu.net/image/107661/

Alright, go for it. "headdress" will be used for these type of accessories.

Yaaay! Thank youuu!

I added it, but I am a bit curious as to what everyone thinks qualifies as a headdress. Is the maid argument valid? I put the tag description as, "Clothing for the head, i.e. bonnets" if only temporarily. Certainly hats and hoods do not apply, yes?