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Since adding Pixiv IDs as child tags to artist tags, locating artists for images has been somewhat easier on [[E-Shuushuu]]. However, not every artist has their Pixiv ID as a child, and not every artist even uses Pixiv. This is an updated guide on how to locate artists, for all members. For team members wanting to add an artist, see [[Creating Artist Tags]].
  
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=The Basics=
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===Image Search Tools===
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* [https://www.google.com/imghp?sbi=1 Google Image Search]: Broad Image Search
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* [https://saucenao.com/ Saucenao]: Searches Pixiv and Deviantart
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* [http://iqdb.org/ iqdb]: Searches other image boards ''(excluding a few, like Minitokyo)''
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* [https://saucenao.com/tools/ Saucenao Extension]: Quick search Google, iqdb, Saucenao or TinEye
  
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==An Image Is Posted On Shuu==
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The fastest way to search if an image was originally posted on Pixiv, is to run the image through Saucenao. This can be done from Saucenao, or by using the Saucenao extension, which allows you to right click the image and search much faster.
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We're going to assume that the Pixiv link is provided in the misc. metadata field.
 
  
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Click the link to go to Pixiv.
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Alternatively, you can search using iqdb, which searches E-Shuushuu and other image boards, to see if the image has been tagged with an artist elsewhere; this can also be done faster using the Saucenao extension. BE CAREFUl, as other image boards tag their artists differently to E-Shuushuu, so use their Pixiv IDs to locate the artist when possible. Images are tagged by users on other image boards so the information is not always correct, when possible, try to ensure that the image has been posted by the linked artist.
  
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Get to the artist's main page.  
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===Common Artist Platforms===
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* [https://www.pixiv.net/en/ Pixiv]
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* [https://www.deviantart.com/ DeviantART]
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* [https://piapro.jp/ Piapro]
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* [https://www.tinami.com/ Tinami]
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* [https://twitter.com/home Twitter]
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* Tommy Walker game profiles (See [[#Tommy Walker Artists|Tommy Walker Artists]])
  
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Scroll down: is there a website in their profile information? It may either be in the HPアドレス (basically, website) slot {[http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=19446 ex]} or somewhere within the writing at the bottom {[http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=180215 ex]}.
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===Other Credible Sources===
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* [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ AnimeNewsNetwork]
  
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The important sites to look for are:
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===Artist Names===
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* websites/blogs
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Real names and names that artists publish their main work under, take priority over other names that the artist uses, as the primary tag name. The Pixiv nickname comes secondary to these, but still takes priority over other platforms to create some consistency on the board. So searching for these names will more likely lead you to the correct artist.
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* Piapro accounts
 
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* DA accounts
 
  
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We DO NOT copy artist names from other image boards; we use names on their personal websites.
  
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==Artists of the Same Name==
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Many artists have the same name, so be careful not just just add the artist name and leave it. Check that this is truly the correct artist of that name. Having Pixiv IDs as child tags has helped us to reduce this, though there are still a lot of mistagged images.
  
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===The artist has a website.===
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==Duplicate Artist Tags==
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Artists may also have a proper website, with multiple pages, etc. Oooh~
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Give these a report using the [[Report Function]]; the team will get the information checked and merge the tags as needed.
  
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To find an artist's name on a proper website, you employ a similar method to finding it on the blog. Look for an "about", "info", "profile", or "links" page, primarily. If the site page names are in Japanese, look for "プロファイル", "インフォ", "アバウト", or "管理人". Sometimes the main page will contain names, and sometimes an "offline" or simply "off" page will have it hidden.  
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=Personal Websites/Blogs=
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On informational pages, the name usually comes after either "PN", "HN", "管理人", "名前", etc. Things like "サイト名" or "HP" are generally the name of the website. These are never the artist's name.
  
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In any case, if you simply open all of the links you'll stumble onto it eventually.
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Aside from it being pre-romanized, names may also be found in other manners. Artists will often list their names like this:
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管理人: 主水 (シュミズ)
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Translated, that is 'Name: Shumizu (Shumizu)'. This shows the Kanji and, in the brackets, how the Kanji is read. Just give it a check in case it says something else, such as 'Temporary'.
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Of course, the artist's name would be "Shumizu". Not "Shumizu (Shumizu)".
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=Piapro Artists=
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If the original filename looks like one of these:
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[[File:Piapro_filename_examples.PNG]]
  
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On these pages, the information usually comes after either "PN", "HN", "管理人", "名前", etc.
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then it is most likely from [http://piapro.jp/ Piapro]. Piapro is a site dedicated to Vocaloid media (illustrations, music, song lyrics, etc.) Their filenames are in this format: "PictureTitle_ArtistLogin_SomeNumbers.jpg"
  
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Things like "サイト名" or "HP" are generally the name of the website. These are never the artist's name.
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It's easy to find the artist from this filename.
  
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For romanizing purposes, follow the guide above. However, I would like to expand upon a point: that some artists give you their names.
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Copy the middle part, as circled here:
  
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Aside from it being pre-romanized, names may also be found in other manners. Artists will often list their names like this:
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[[File:Piapro_filename.PNG]]
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Then paste it in your address bar after "piapro.jp/".  In this example you would get http://piapro.jp/akaiya3. This is the artist's page.
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To see the artist's full profile, paste their login after "http://piapro.jp/my_page/?view=profile&pid=". For example: http://piapro.jp/my_page/?view=profile&pid=akaiya3
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Be aware that Piapro automatically appends "さん" to all of its user's names; it's a suffix, not part of their name.
  
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* 管理人: 主水 (シュミズ)
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=Booru Images=
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* Name: Shumizu (shumizu)
 
  
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This way, you can see their name in kanji, as they would write it, and you can also see the way that they read the kanji. This is an especially useful tool, but sometimes parenthesis can contain things like "temporary" as text instead, so it's best to translate things before assuming they're readings.
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Some of the art of Shuu comes from a booru, be it Danbooru, Gelbooru, moe.imouto, etc.  Of all the boorus, only moe.imouto and Danbooru have any sort of a reliable system for finding artist websites.  While many of the names at these places are wrong, the links don't lie.
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A typical moe.imouto sidebar for an image from pixiv looks like this:
  
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In this case, by the way, the artist's tag would be added as "Shumizu". Not "Shumizu (shumizu)" or anything of that sort.  
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[[File:Moe.png]]
  
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And if we assume that the pixiv link is not provided, you can still get to the artist's pixiv account by opening up the full information on an image, and copy-pasting the original filename. This will only work if it's a file saved directly from pixiv, without the filename being changed.
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The source section will link you right to the image on Pixiv, and if you click the question mark next to the artist's name (yellow on moe.imouto, red on Danbooru), you may be linked to a page with the artist's websites on it. Double check this information before using it, as it can be edited by almost anyone.
  
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You can then open an image on pixiv, switch the numbers at the end of the url with what you have copied, and hit enter. You should be taken to the right image.  ([http://e-shuushuu.net/wiki/images/8/86/Name.png These Numbers])
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=Tommy Walker Artists=
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There are currently six Tommy Walker games, that allow users to commission artwork of characters.
  
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And to test it, here's a sample: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php? ... id=8194785
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Finding the artist of Tommy Walker images can be quite a challenge, as the images often share backgrounds that stop then being so easily searchable on Similar Image Searches, and we don't currently alias Tommy Walker IDs to Artist tags.
  
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Replace the 8194785 with 8193668 (random other image). See what I mean?
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==Artist IDs==
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Each artist on Tommy Walker has the same user ID across all games. However, across different games, some IDs are used as they are, while others will need zeros added to the front of the ID to make the number up to five digits.
  
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You should be seeing [http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=8193668 this image].
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If all you can find is an ID number, use the starting links [[:Category:Tommy Walker Artist|here]] to put before an artist ID to locate their profile.
  
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Alternately, you can take the image and run it through iqdb: http://iqdb.org/
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==Searching TW Images==
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===Run the image through iqbd===
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This will try to locate if the image has been posted on other image boards. Be cautious even if you find an artist from this; the images can be tagged by anyone so you should follow the artist links back to their gallery to check (See [[#Navigating TW Artist Profiles|Navigating Artist Profiles]]).
  
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Then you can grab the pixiv link from the "source" slot of the image's booru page.
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===OR Google Image Search===
  
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Or, you can run it through SauceNAO: http://saucenao.com/
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Google will sometimes pick up the image from the original Tommy Walker site, either in the results or sometimes if you look under 'Find other sizes of this image'. You are looking for a Tommy Walker game URL, beginning with <nowiki> http://t-walker.jp/</nowiki> or something similar to <nowiki>http://tw4.jp/</nowiki> ''(number changing depending on the game)''.
  
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Copy the source for the image on shuu as you would do to get the artist's pixiv sign in name. Then, go to SauceNAO > advanced options > check the "URL" box > past in your url > change "all databases" to "pixiv". Then you can click the image ID it gives to link straight to it.
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==Navigating TW Artist Profiles==
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You have found the Artist profile that you THINK it might be, but you want to check their gallery for the image?
  
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==General notes on artist names through a translator online==
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The games are all in Japanese, so it can seem a little difficult to know how to navigate to their galleries. This can be done in different ways, depending on the game.
  
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* They don't provide alternate readings, example: 紅, which means "red", has 5 different readings: Kurenai, Kou, Ku, Beni and Mochi.
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===Mugen no Fantasia / Silver Rain===
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Romaji.org only gives you "Kurenai".
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Below the artist's banner, on the right hand side is a button. This button should take you to all of their uploaded works.
  
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[[File:Button to gallery.jpg]] < Mugen no Fantasia
  
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* Different combination of kanji will "break" the translation, example, 華月 is usually read as "hana gatsu", and Romaji.org will give you the same reading, but many artists prefer "Kazuki" instead.  
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[[File:Silver rain button.gif]]  < Silver Rain
  
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===End Breaker===
  
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* "バージニア*コンプレックス" google language tool will translate it correctly, but romaji.org will not.
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The gallery can be access from the dropdown menu and clicking the button by it, here:
  
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[[File:All works on the dropdown.png]]
  
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* Romaji.org use Nihon-shiki romanization, which isn't suitable for an "english-speaking community".
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OR
  
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Example: a very common error found on the Shuu wiki when reading the recent changelog:  
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[[File:End breaker gallery.gif]] < This button should take you to all of their uploaded works.
  
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ヅ/づ, ヂ/ぢ Zu and Ji respectively and that is Hepburn Romanization, not "Du" and "Di", which is Nihon-Shiki Romanization.
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===Psychic Hearts/Kerberos Blade===
  
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Their gallery is accessible, through the second tab on their profile, and the artist's information from the third:
  
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* Another common "error" found on shuu wiki, 月.  
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[[File:Tabs.png]]
  
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It's actually Tsuki, or Zuki. Gatsu is a common reading, but not for Japanese names.
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===Jaeger Sixth===
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Just scroll down; it should be at the bottom of their page!
  
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And also, 夜, Yoru. Many artists prefer "ya".
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=Artist Does Not Have a Tag=
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Leave a link to the artist's personal profile in the Misc. Metadate section, and our [[Moderators]] or [[Tagging Team]] will add the artist to our database!
  
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Artists tags are not created without a link to a personal website, social media platform, or other credible source such as [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ AnimeNewsNetwork]'s Encyclopedia.
  
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* The iteration mark, 々, I don't know about other online translator, bur Romaji.org will ignore this word,
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=Still Can't Locate the Artist=
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which will cause the translation to become incomplete.
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Our [[Tagging Team]] is here to help, no worries. Any additional information that you can offer about the image may be useful.
  
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[[Category:Tutorial]]
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[[category:Tutorial]]

Revision as of 19:50, 6 June 2020

Since adding Pixiv IDs as child tags to artist tags, locating artists for images has been somewhat easier on E-Shuushuu. However, not every artist has their Pixiv ID as a child, and not every artist even uses Pixiv. This is an updated guide on how to locate artists, for all members. For team members wanting to add an artist, see Creating Artist Tags.

The Basics

Image Search Tools

The fastest way to search if an image was originally posted on Pixiv, is to run the image through Saucenao. This can be done from Saucenao, or by using the Saucenao extension, which allows you to right click the image and search much faster.

Alternatively, you can search using iqdb, which searches E-Shuushuu and other image boards, to see if the image has been tagged with an artist elsewhere; this can also be done faster using the Saucenao extension. BE CAREFUl, as other image boards tag their artists differently to E-Shuushuu, so use their Pixiv IDs to locate the artist when possible. Images are tagged by users on other image boards so the information is not always correct, when possible, try to ensure that the image has been posted by the linked artist.

Common Artist Platforms

Other Credible Sources

Artist Names

Real names and names that artists publish their main work under, take priority over other names that the artist uses, as the primary tag name. The Pixiv nickname comes secondary to these, but still takes priority over other platforms to create some consistency on the board. So searching for these names will more likely lead you to the correct artist.

We DO NOT copy artist names from other image boards; we use names on their personal websites.

Artists of the Same Name

Many artists have the same name, so be careful not just just add the artist name and leave it. Check that this is truly the correct artist of that name. Having Pixiv IDs as child tags has helped us to reduce this, though there are still a lot of mistagged images.

Duplicate Artist Tags

Give these a report using the Report Function; the team will get the information checked and merge the tags as needed.

Personal Websites/Blogs

On informational pages, the name usually comes after either "PN", "HN", "管理人", "名前", etc. Things like "サイト名" or "HP" are generally the name of the website. These are never the artist's name.

Aside from it being pre-romanized, names may also be found in other manners. Artists will often list their names like this:

管理人: 主水 (シュミズ)

Translated, that is 'Name: Shumizu (Shumizu)'. This shows the Kanji and, in the brackets, how the Kanji is read. Just give it a check in case it says something else, such as 'Temporary'.

Of course, the artist's name would be "Shumizu". Not "Shumizu (Shumizu)".

Piapro Artists

If the original filename looks like one of these:

Piapro filename examples.PNG

then it is most likely from Piapro. Piapro is a site dedicated to Vocaloid media (illustrations, music, song lyrics, etc.) Their filenames are in this format: "PictureTitle_ArtistLogin_SomeNumbers.jpg"

It's easy to find the artist from this filename.

Copy the middle part, as circled here:

Piapro filename.PNG

Then paste it in your address bar after "piapro.jp/". In this example you would get http://piapro.jp/akaiya3. This is the artist's page.

To see the artist's full profile, paste their login after "http://piapro.jp/my_page/?view=profile&pid=". For example: http://piapro.jp/my_page/?view=profile&pid=akaiya3

Be aware that Piapro automatically appends "さん" to all of its user's names; it's a suffix, not part of their name.

Booru Images

Some of the art of Shuu comes from a booru, be it Danbooru, Gelbooru, moe.imouto, etc. Of all the boorus, only moe.imouto and Danbooru have any sort of a reliable system for finding artist websites. While many of the names at these places are wrong, the links don't lie. A typical moe.imouto sidebar for an image from pixiv looks like this:

Moe.png

The source section will link you right to the image on Pixiv, and if you click the question mark next to the artist's name (yellow on moe.imouto, red on Danbooru), you may be linked to a page with the artist's websites on it. Double check this information before using it, as it can be edited by almost anyone.

Tommy Walker Artists

There are currently six Tommy Walker games, that allow users to commission artwork of characters.

Finding the artist of Tommy Walker images can be quite a challenge, as the images often share backgrounds that stop then being so easily searchable on Similar Image Searches, and we don't currently alias Tommy Walker IDs to Artist tags.

Artist IDs

Each artist on Tommy Walker has the same user ID across all games. However, across different games, some IDs are used as they are, while others will need zeros added to the front of the ID to make the number up to five digits.

If all you can find is an ID number, use the starting links here to put before an artist ID to locate their profile.

Searching TW Images

Run the image through iqbd

This will try to locate if the image has been posted on other image boards. Be cautious even if you find an artist from this; the images can be tagged by anyone so you should follow the artist links back to their gallery to check (See Navigating Artist Profiles).

OR Google Image Search

Google will sometimes pick up the image from the original Tommy Walker site, either in the results or sometimes if you look under 'Find other sizes of this image'. You are looking for a Tommy Walker game URL, beginning with http://t-walker.jp/ or something similar to http://tw4.jp/ (number changing depending on the game).

Navigating TW Artist Profiles

You have found the Artist profile that you THINK it might be, but you want to check their gallery for the image?

The games are all in Japanese, so it can seem a little difficult to know how to navigate to their galleries. This can be done in different ways, depending on the game.

Mugen no Fantasia / Silver Rain

Below the artist's banner, on the right hand side is a button. This button should take you to all of their uploaded works.

Button to gallery.jpg < Mugen no Fantasia

Silver rain button.gif < Silver Rain

End Breaker

The gallery can be access from the dropdown menu and clicking the button by it, here:

File:All works on the dropdown.png

OR

End breaker gallery.gif < This button should take you to all of their uploaded works.

Psychic Hearts/Kerberos Blade

Their gallery is accessible, through the second tab on their profile, and the artist's information from the third:

Tabs.png

Jaeger Sixth

Just scroll down; it should be at the bottom of their page!

Artist Does Not Have a Tag

Leave a link to the artist's personal profile in the Misc. Metadate section, and our Moderators or Tagging Team will add the artist to our database!

Artists tags are not created without a link to a personal website, social media platform, or other credible source such as AnimeNewsNetwork's Encyclopedia.

Still Can't Locate the Artist

Our Tagging Team is here to help, no worries. Any additional information that you can offer about the image may be useful.

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